- Appendix S deals with the "Brigitte scenarios" related to questions about the biological parents of the three Auzière children, who, according to the civil registry, are the children of André Louis Auzière, a potentially fictitious person, and Brigitte Trogneux, a person who may have died when she was a child. The various hypotheses raised are already well established and defined. The Annexes T deal with the "Emmanuel scenarios" linked to questions about the biological parents of Emmanuel Macron, who, according to the civil registry, is the son of Jean-Michel Macron and Françoise Noguès. The "black hole" of the future President of the Republic's first 12 years is also addressed, in the search for possible manipulations. Here we have only rough hypotheses, which need to be explored, to the extent of the clues found.
- (S) The rejected, plausible, probable scenarios
We start here with a table of scenarios published on August 9, 2024, in our P.-S. 64. Let's first present each of the scenarios, corresponding to the columns in the table:- Official 2016. This is the scenario of Wikipedia and all the major media. This legend was finalized, for the most part, in 2016. It corresponds to the civil status data.
- Natacha Rey 2021. This scenario was developed in a video dated December 10, 2021. It does not exist in written form. Did Natacha Rey change it? Apparently not.
- Pressibus 2022. Created on January 24, 2022, the Pressibus file first adopted Natacha Rey's scenario, then adopted this new scenario in August 2024. It has evolved slightly since then. Its latest version dates from February 25, 2025.
- F&D No. 527 2023. Xavier Poussard, in his magazine "Faits & Documents" (F&D), has been covering the subject since October 2021. He first followed Natacha Rey's scenario, then in December 2023, in issue no. 527 of F&D, he expressed a new scenario, which is that of his book "Devenir Brigitte" of March 2025.
- CNdG 2024. On April 26, 2024, a page on the Riposte Laïque website presents a scenario signed ‘Colonel Napoléon de Guerlasse’, summarizing his page on the ‘Action patriote’ website, started on December 14, 2021.
Scenario: Officiel 2016 Natacha Rey 2021 Pressibus 2022 F&D n°527 2023 CNdG 2024 Brigitte Macron's birth name Brigitte Trogneux Jean-Michel Trogneux Jean-Michel Trogneux Jean-Michel Trogneux Jean-Michel Trogneux Biological father of the three children Auzière André Louis Auzière Jean-Michel Trogneux Jean-Michel Trogneux André Louis Auzière Jean-Michel Trogneux Biological mother of the three children Brigitte (née) Trogneux Catherine Audoy (2nd wife of Jean-Louis Auzière) Brigitte "Proba" (née) Auzière Brigitte (née) Trogneux Brigitte (née) Trogneux Brigitte (née) Trogneux is fictitious no yes no no no André Louis Auzière is fictitious no yes yes no yes Brigitte "Proba" (née) Auzière exists no no yes no no Jean-Michel Trogneux is the (biological) uncle of the three children yes no no yes no Jean-Michel Trogneux is the father of Emmanuel Macron no no no no yes Plausible/Probable no/no
Rejectedno/no
Rejectedyes/yes
Probableyes/no
Plausibleyes/no
PlausibleWhy? Brigitte Macron, born a man, is not the bride of 1974 Brigitte Trogneux, born in 1953, did exist, Catherine Audoy is not the mother of the three children The presence of Brigitte "Proba" Auzière is proven as a witness to the 1980 marriage (Chap. 30 part. 2) It seems likely that André Louis Auzière, as the father of the three children, is a fictional character The Trogneux family would not have accepted brother-sister incest Note This is the current version of the mainstream media, silent on the new elements At the beginning of 2022, the Natacha Rey 2021 scenario was also that of F&D and Pressibus.
Update: in a 35-minute interview on September 13, 2024, Natacha Rey clarifies her position (without much change) between 15 minutes and 19 minutes (P.-S. 69).In the NBI 2022 file, Jean-Michel was already Emmanuel's father (Appendix A 37).
At the time of writing, in March 2025, this table from August 2024 remains relevant. Our opinion is not definitive; it may change. However, the scenario estimated as "probable" is so at a high level, that of deep conviction, based on a body of consistent evidence. Very important new information would be needed for us to change our minds.
Tiphaine, Laurence and Sébastien Auzière: who are their biological parents?
- (S) Explanations for the rejection of scenarios
The "Official 1996" hypothesis is rejected because it does not accept the established fact, namely that Brigitte Macron was not born Brigitte Trogneux but Jean-Michel Trogneux. This is therefore an official lie, implying identity theft and the invalidity of the 2007 marriage, which concerns two men and not a man and a woman.
However, with regard to the biological parents of the three Auzière children, the "Official 2016" hypothesis is consistent with the "F&D527 2023" hypothesis and, on this point, therefore appears plausible.
The "Natacha Rey 2021" hypothesis is rejected for reasons explained in P.-S. 99b. In summary: Catherine Audoy filed a lawsuit against Natacha Rey for defamation regarding this pregnancy and for other reasons. She provided the court with evidence that she was working during the births attributed to her. Furthermore, she has never had a child. Natacha Rey maintains her scenario; she and her lawyer have challenged the judgment, but on points other than this one. We take note of this, as did Xavier Poussard. We consider it legitimate that this suspicion has been made public, but, in the current state of our knowledge, we agree with the court's opinion (on this point only, not on others).
However, this "Natacha Rey 2021 scenario" is the closest to the most likely scenario, "Pressibus 2022": the mother is related to the Auzière family and not to the Trogneux family, the father is Jean-Michel Trogneux.
- (S) The hypothesis of an uncle raising his nephews
In hypothesis F&D527, Uncle Jean-Michel Trogneux, from around 1984, raised his three nephews Sébastien, Laurence and Tiphaine, then aged 9, 7 and a few months respectively. The uncle replaced the biological mother, who had apparently disappeared, probably having been spirited away. The biological father, André Louis Auzière, was said to be still present.
The tree from "Faits & Documents" No. 527 of December 2023
In what context can such a substitution occur? Xavier Poussard, on page 296 of his book, presents the following case: "A sister who knows she is doomed by a serious illness entrusts the care of her children and her identity to this brother to whom she is so close and who has always felt like a woman!". Indeed, it takes a very strong constraint, such as a serious illness or danger of death, for a mother to abandon her children.
However, in such a case, it is the father who tries to take over, as a father. If he doesn't, what could be the reason? Here are two:- He may find himself incapable of doing so. In that case, he seeks help, first and foremost from his family, and also from his place of residence. However, André Louis and Jean-Michel moved away from their families completely by settling near Strasbourg.
- André Louis and Jean-Michel are in love with each other. This explains why they move away from their bourgeois families, who would disapprove of their homosexual love.
This sheds light on the 1984 crisis. Jean-Michel Trogneux allegedly abandoned his two female loves, Brigitte and Véronique, to devote himself to his male love, his brother-in-law André Louis Auzière.
However, this deduction would only partly explain the absence of photos of André Louis. Nothing prevents a photo of him with one of his young children from being shown. That he does not show himself with their biological mother is understandable, because then we would realize that she is not Brigitte Macron. On the other hand, a photo with a feminine Jean-Michel, with or without children, does not present any risk, we would recognize the father, the one who is supposed to be the mother and the toddlers. The absence of a photo makes this scenario even less likely.
Furthermore, while Jean-Michel's homosexuality is consistent with the rest of the story, that of André Louis, father of three children, is surprising, but why not ? However, this does not explain the character's extremely self-effacing behavior.
Let's remember that, for the neighbors of number 4 rue des coquelicots, in Truchterscheim, the Auzière couple seemed well integrated. The father mowed the lawn... (photo opposite, Chapter 9, article).
In his book, Xavier Poussard considers the statements that Emmanuelle Anizon gathered from Jean-Louis Auzière to be true. However, the latter claims that in 2019, at the funeral of his nephew André Louis, his last partner was present. And not his last companion... Here again, André Louis's heterosexuality makes the F&D527 scenario even less likely.
So, if we continue with Xavier Poussard's line of reasoning, we reach an almost dead end. And that's without taking into account that Jean-Michel Trogneux had two other very young children in 1984: Jean-Jacques and Valérie Trogneux, aged 2 for the former, a few months for the latter, both legitimate children of his marriage in 1980 to Véronique Dreux. What father would abandon his two children to raise three nephews in their place? You would have to be extremely angry with the mother, and even more so, because visiting rights and alternating custody are for angry parents.
Even supposing that the biological mother had died (without it being declared) (and this is not in the F&D527 scenario), even supposing that Jean-Michel wanted at all costs to become a mother and perpetuate the existence of his deceased sister, why would he have married four years earlier and why would he have no attachment to his two children? Why would he want to separate a biological father and his three children? It is certainly not impossible, but it is very unlikely.
It is precisely because there is no factual evidence to rule out this F&D527 hypothesis that it is retained here and considered plausible, in the sense that it is not completely impossible, but almost so. And this, without even having compared it to the course of Jean-Michel Trogneux's life.
- (S) The hypothesis of children born of brother-sister incest
In the CNdG hypothesis, the Auzière siblings are the children of brother and sister Jean-Michel and Brigitte Auzière. To state this is to state the main obstacle to this hypothesis from the outset.
Admittedly, at the 1974 wedding, Jean-Michel Trogneux would be replaced by a fictional character, André Louis Auzière, which makes it possible to hide the incest from the authorities and from those who do not know the spouses well. But the family, the Trogneux parents, the brother and the sisters cannot be unaware of it. This is a bourgeois, Catholic family for whom incest is unbearable. What could have made it bearable?
One answer could be an unwanted pregnancy. The bride could have become pregnant by her brother in 1974 and lost the child shortly afterwards. At that time, the voluntary termination of pregnancy had not yet been voted on. But this is not the case: we know that on January 26, 1974, Brigitte was engaged and the wedding took place on June 22. The gap between these two dates is too great. The photo of the bride does not show her pregnant.
Another hypothesis is that family secrets led to the acceptance of this incest. What happened in 1960 (Brigitte only starting school at that time, Jean-Michel leaving for Algiers) suggests that such secrets existed. But what could they be that led the whole family to accept incest? It's hard to imagine. There is no proof that it is impossible, but the probability appears very low.
- (S) The hypothesis of a mother usurping the identity of Brigitte Trogneux
This hypothesis, which is that of Pressibus 2022, can be considered as resulting from the exclusion of the two previous hypotheses: it combines two suppositions: that Jean-Michel is the biological father of the Auzière children, and not their uncle, and that there is no incest.
The Pressibus 2022 tree of the three Brigittes. The photo of Brigitte No. 1 turns out to be false (or even inlaid, P.-S. 97).
According to the civil registry, the mother of the three children is Brigitte Trogneux, born in Amiens on April 13, 1953, daughter of Jean Trogneux and Simone Pujol. As the father of the children, Auzière, is said to be her brother Jean-Michel and incest is ruled out, the identity of Brigitte Trogneux must necessarily have been usurped by another person. Under what circumstances is this possible? Given the parents' consent and the family's continued support thereafter, it must be assumed that the whole family accepted the impersonation. Since the bride is around 21 years old and has an educational background, in contact with classmates, the usurpation is necessarily old and dates from before the girl's schooling. However, this began in CE2, in 1960, at the age of seven and a half. If there was usurpation, it therefore dates from before the start of the school year in September 1960. The strangeness of a lack of schooling before this date makes it possible to fix the identity theft in 1960 or shortly before, otherwise the girl would have been enrolled in school earlier. There remains a slight degree of uncertainty for this date, due to the fact that she could have been enrolled in school far from home, for example for a medical reason.
This means that before that date in September 1960, the girl born in Amiens in 1953 would have disappeared, either having died and then without a death certificate, or having been smuggled out and replaced by another girl. Undeclared death seems much more likely. It had to be done discreetly and credibly. And we know that the conditions were right:- the Auzière family is involved in the secret services, especially Georges Costes, who was a witness at the 1974 wedding (P.-S. 9),
- the mayor of Le Touquet, Léonce Deprez, who officiated at the 1974 wedding, is a very close friend of Jean Trogneux, the father of Jean-Michel (Appendix A 28 and Appendix A 50.
Thus, by a path that is different at the beginning from that of 2022, namely the strong improbability of two other scenarios, we have logically arrived at a scenario of three Bridgettes, which brings us closer to the Pressibus 2022 scenario. It is complex to have three people succeeding one another under the same identity of Brigitte Trogneux, but it is the only one that allows these three imperatives to be brought together:- the bride of 1974 is not Brigitte Macron,
- the three Trogneux children were raised by their biological father (and not by an uncle),
- these children were not born of incest.
Moreover, this process has enabled us to find the date of the first identity theft: 1960. The second, when Jean-Michel Trogneux "became" Brigitte, is common to all scenarios: 1984.
- (S) The hypothesis of a mother born Brigitte Auzière
From the above, we conclude that the F&D527 and CNdG hypotheses are very unlikely, while the hypothesis of an identity theft of the 1974 bride avoids the pitfalls of these two scenarios and provides a very favorable context for the 1974 marriage to be rigged. To arrive at the Pressibus scenario, it remains to be seen who the person is who usurped the identity of Brigitte Trogneux.
Several considerations allow us to guess who she may be, by successive approaches:- she is an Auzière, since the children have this surname,
- she is very close to those who are supposed to be the parents of the groom, the fictitious André Louis, Louis Auzière and Renée Costes, certainly even their daughter. They have four daughters: Line, Renée, Hélène and Laure.
- given that each of these four daughters has a family life with children, leaving no room for a double life with three additional children, they are excluded.
- At this stage, it is surprising that between the son Pierre, born in 1947, and the youngest, Laure, born in 1955, no children were born during these eight years. None, except for the fictitious child André Louis, supposedly born on February 28, 1951, without proof since he was born in Eseka, Cameroon, where there was no civil registry.
- A question naturally arises: what if the mother of the three children had given birth to a girl around that time, rather than a boy? With a date of birth closer to 1953 than 1951? So a girl of an age similar to that of the missing woman from Amiens?
- The Auzière family lived in Madagascar in 1960 (document below left), and returned to mainland France in 1963. Little Brigitte may have returned two years earlier.
We have just reconstructed the reasoning that led, in April / May 2022 (Chapter 27), to the Pressibus scenario. We have reached the stage where this mysterious Auzière girl, born around 1953 in Cameroon, who became the mother of three Auzière children, was given the name "Proba", "as in Probable". We await the discovery of her real first name.
Let's focus on this Proba Auzière. She allows us to understand the necessity of faking the 1974 marriage and the cleverness of the trickery used:- The necessity, the why:
Jean-Michel and Proba want to start a family. But as Proba has taken on the identity of Brigitte Trogneux, Jean-Michel's sister, marriage between sister and brother is legally and religiously impossible. So they have to cheat to find a solution. - The skill, the how:
This duality of a (fictional) brother André Louis and a (real) sister Proba turns out to be brilliant:- Auzière / Trogneux on the civil status, Trogneux / Auzière on the biological one, it's almost the same,
- the biological mother is the real sister of the fictitious father on the civil status, while the biological father is the brother of the deceased (unregistered) mother on the civil status,
- this gives the same four grandparents on the civil status as on the biological level.
How did the provisional first name Proba become Brigitte? First, there was some questionable confusion: in documents, the name Brigitte Auzière sometimes seemed to be a maiden name, sometimes a married name. But confirmation arrived quickly: Brigitte, née Auzière, does indeed exist. She was a witness at the wedding of Jean-Michel Trogneux and Véronique Dreux in Blangy-Tronville in 1980 (above right). And it is the birth name that is obligatorily marked for such a certificate. This practice is based on the principle that only the name on the birth certificate should appear on official documents. And, unlike the 1974 marriage, there is no reason to believe that the mayor of Blangy-Tronville was involved in any shenanigans. He has no connection with the Trogneux family.
One may well wonder why Brigitte Auzière chose to show her Auzière ID, when she could have shown her Trogneux ID. It doesn't matter, that's the choice she made. And who knows, maybe she wanted to give us a sign, to show her desire to escape her heavy Trogneux identity (heavy to bear because of the very complicated life of the pervert Jean-Michel...).
- (S) A new scenario. And others?
In mid-March 2025, around fifteen correspondents from the Pressibus file followed the production of this appendix S. This revealed the existence of a new plausible scenario, with the following characteristics:- Jean-Michel Trogneux is the biological father of the three Auzière children,
- Brigitte Trogneux, born in 1953 in Amiens, is their mother,
- Jean-Michel and Brigitte Trogneux are no longer brother and sister, as in the CNdG scenario, but uncle and niece, which increases the acceptability of incest,
- Brigitte Trogneux would therefore no longer be the daughter of Jean Trogneux and Simone Pujol, but of Anne-Marie Trogneux, sister of Jean-Michel and Louis Auzière
- since Jean-Michel Trogneux is the biological father, this father is not André Louis Auzière, who is a fictional character created to hide the incest, as in the Pressibus scenario.
This scenario is called NieceA, after Auzière's niece. Its two strong points are, appropriately, the niece and Auzière:- Brigitte Trogneux, born April 13, 1953, was conceived in 1952. In 1952, Simone, her official mother, was 39 years old, Anne-Marie was 20. At the time, the pregnancy of a 20-year-old girl accidentally impregnated by a married man in a large bourgeois family such as the Trogneux was considered a very serious offense that dishonored the family and should be hidden. Sometimes the mother would take on her daughter's maternity and the child would then be considered the youngest in the family. In this case, the youngest child Brigitte is no longer Jean-Michel's biological sister, but his biological niece.
- The involvement of the Auzières would, in this case, date back to 1952 and not 1960, as the Pressibus scenario suggests. The Auzières, who are used to the secret services and the use of front men, may even have given this Brigitte from Amiens a second identity, that of a Brigitte Auzière, born in Eseka in Cameroon. This would explain the presence of the witness Brigitte Auzière at the 1980 wedding. It is also possible that she would have attended her first years of school with her father in Africa. This would explain why Brigitte did not attend school in Amiens before 1960.
However, major difficulties remain:- Under what circumstances would Louis Auzière, 35, and Anne-Marie Trogneux, 20, have had the opportunity to meet in 1952? Louis was living in Cameroon at the time, and Anne-Marie in Amiens with her parents. Louis lived in Algiers from 1943 to 1945, where he had ties with his sister and his brother-in-law Georges Costes. Anne-Marie is a national-level tennis player, she plays against Algerian opponents (Appendix A 28): she could therefore have traveled to Algiers. The possibility of Louis Auzière visiting Le Touquet, where Anne-Marie is often present, cannot be ruled out. We also know that the Trogneux have a cousin and neighbor, Jacqueline Ledoux, who often goes to Algiers (P.-S. 48). But these are fragile speculations. No link between the Trogneux and Auzière families has been found so far.
- The acceptance of an unwanted child, born of an extramarital affair, is difficult, but it is in accordance with Christian morality. On the other hand, accepting that a father of five children, outside the family, makes the young girl of the house pregnant is incomprehensible in a Christian bourgeois family. This Louis Auzière would instantly have become a lout to be hated. How could he have partly raised his child and then been present at his marriage to Trogneux?
- Even if it is between niece and uncle, incest is prohibited and there would have to be a compelling reason for a Christian bourgeois family to accept it. We have seen that no pregnancy is the cause of the marriage, so why?
Other scenarios appear possible. For example, we can take this one and replace Louis Auzière with another person, but it would be more of a variant. Similarly, for the Pressibus scenario, we could assign other parents to Brigitte Proba Auzière, but these would also be variants. A truly distinct scenario, such as NieceA, has yet to be found.
Moreover, could we define the outlines of an ideal scenario? It would be without the incest of CNdG and NièceA, without the uncle of F&D527 and without the three Brigittes of Pressibus. It would be necessary for Brigitte, née Trogneux, not to be the biological sister of Jean-Michel, so that she has another father and another mother, without the father and mother having a close relationship with the Trogneux. But why then would this baby with no connection to the Trogneux have been considered their child? A solution in this direction seems very unlikely, although not impossible.
Once again, we see that the denial of incest, like the denial of an uncle raising three nephews by abandoning his two children, leads to the existence of three Bridgettes, hence the Pressibus scenario. - (S) The scenarios compared with the biography of Jean-Michel Trogneux
We will now take up the four selected scenarios, Pressibus 2022 (P), F&D527 2023 (F), CNdG 2024 (C) and NieceA 2025 (N), comparing them with the stages of Jean-Michel Trogneux's life described in the "point of the situation on February 25, 2025", with an addition (the last one) coming from the analysis of Xavier Poussard's book (P.-S. 105b). Scores are given according to whether the scenario corresponds very well (2), well (1), fairly (-1) or poorly (-2) to the indicated episode of life and its normality. Depending on the color of the lines, there is a different scoring criterion:- in pink: a good or bad correspondence with the fact in question,
- in blue: a good or bad normality of the life episode in question.
Title Episode in the life of Jean-Michel Trogneux and meaning of the notes P F C N 1) Birth Brigitte (No. 1) Trogneux was born on April 13, 1953, officially the daughter of Jean Trogneux, 44, and his wife Simone Pujol (2 if biologically true, -2 if not) 2 2 2 -2 2) Family photo A family photo was taken at the beginning of 1953, to which a fictitious Brigitte aged around 3 years old was later added (PS 97). (we understand why 2 / 1, we don't understand at all -2) 2 -2 -2 1 3) Schooling Before the start of the 1960 school year and at the age of 7, this Brigitte No. 1 did not attend the neighboring school; this is understandable (2 / 1) or appears incomprehensible (-2) 2 -2 -2 1 4) Deceased niece In interviews for celebrity magazines, Brigitte Macron refers to the significant death of a niece a few months after that of her sister Maryvonne (understandable 2, incomprehensible -2). 2 -2 -2 -2 5) Identity theft 1960, a second Brigitte replaces the first (-2) or not (2) -2 2 2 2 6) In Algiers In 1960 (or a little later), Jean-Michel went to Algeria as a confectioner in a boarding house (understandable 2, incomprehensible -2). 2 -2 -2 2 7) Marriage in 1974 Jean-Michel Trogneux and Brigitte Trogneux (according to the civil register) want to start a family and get married by faking (-2) or not (2) the marriage. -2 2 -2 -2 8) Incest Children born of incest (brother-sister -2, uncle-niece -1) or not (2) 2 2 -2 -1 9) Existence of Brigitte Auzière 1980, Brigitte Auzière is a witness at the wedding of Jean-Michel Trogneux. This Brigitte exists (yes 2, in the civil register maybe 1) or not (-2). 2 -2 -2 1 10) Photos with the father Absence of family photos with the father (if he is fictitious 2, -2 otherwise) 2 -2 2 2 11) Father or uncle of the children 1984, Jean-Michel becomes the mother of his children (2) or his nephews (-2) 2 -2 2 2 12) Auzière or Trogneux bride 2024, trial of Natacha Rey, a cousin Auzière, and not a Trogneux, attests that the photo of the bride from 1974 is authentic (page 203 of "Becoming Brigitte"). The bride is an Auzière (2) or a Trogneux (-2) or a mix (1). 2 -2 -2 1 Total 16 -8 -8 5
There is of course subjectivity in the scoring, but the idea is to have a general orientation on the double criterion of having a "normal" trajectory (without fakery, incest, identity theft...) (blue) and a trajectory that allows for an understanding of the observed facts (no schooling before 1960, no photo of the father...) (pink). It would be possible to weight according to color or other criteria... But the trend would hardly change.
The strong belief in the Pressibus scenario compared to the F&D527 and CNdG scenarios is therefore confirmed. The mixed NièceA scenario is about halfway between Pressibus and CNdG.
- (S) Variants of the Pressibus scenario
Variants are possible for each of the basic scenarios. What could they be for the Pressibus scenario, characterized by the succession of three Brigittes?
One of them appeared as early as February 2022. In Appendix A 11, we dealt with "the mystery of the niece who died young". Several statements by "Brigitte" Macron show that she was deeply affected, in 1960, by the accidental death of her sister Maryvonne and by that, a few months or a year later, of a young niece aged 6, who is said to have died of acute appendicitis. However, there is no record of any niece dying at that time. It is on the basis of this mystery that the Pressibus scenario suggests that the niece was in fact little sister Brigitte No. 1 (aged 7 in 1960). By linguistic avoidance, "Brigitte"/Jean-Michel may have used the word "niece" to refer to his sister.
But Brigitte No. 1 could be a real niece, if we position her as in the NieceA scenario. And, while we're at it, it would be good to take into account the very strong oddities surrounding this little girl who disappeared in 1960:- We have no photo of her, since it was shown, in P. -S. 97, that the only family photo in which she could appear dates from early 1953 and can only be a fake: born on April 13, 1953, Brigitte No. 1, on her mother's lap, should be a baby a few weeks old, but she appears to be about 3 years old.
- We know that she did not go to school until the start of the 1960 academic year and we assume that this corresponds to the arrival of Brigitte No. 2. This suggests that she had serious health problems. The lack of a photo could point to a malformation.
The family photo from early 1953. Behind, from left to right, Maryvonne, 16, Jean-Claude, 19 and a half, Anne-Marie, 21, Monique, 11 and a half. In front on the left, Jean-Michel, 8 years old. Brigitte, born in April 1953, cannot be the little girl sitting on the lap of Simone Trogneux, née Pujol, the mother of the family.
What if these health problems or malformations stem from inbreeding? Not only would the niece be the daughter of one of Jean-Michel's sisters, Anne-Marie or Maryvonne, but she would also be the daughter of Jean-Claude: brother-sister incest. Father-sister incest cannot be ruled out. Here we are focusing on brother-sister incest, with a preference for Maryvonne, because "Brigitte" Macron strongly links the death of the sister and the niece, as if there were a strong bond between them, from mother to daughter. In 1952, Jean-Claude was 19 years old, Maryvonne was 15 years old. This is the resulting tree:
In summary, the basic Pressibus scenario considers Brigitte, born April 13, 1953, to be a biological sister of Jean-Michel, while its variants consider her to be a biological niece. Among these variants is the NieceA scenario, with Louis Auzière and Anne-Marie Trogneux as the parents. But the variant we have just indicated has a particular resonance in relation to what we perceive of the short life of a girl who is not well integrated into her family and school life.
We can go further by taking a closer look at what happened in 1960 or shortly afterwards. Jean-Michel Trogneux's departure for Algiers is puzzling. Why did he go there? The Pressibus scenario suggests that he went there to do a favor for the Auzières and, through them, for the French secret service, in gratitude for the arrival of Brigitte "Proba" Auzière in the Trogneux family. But wasn't there also an intention to remove Jean-Michel, as a kind of punishment for committing a serious offense? Could such a mistake have been the death of little Brigitte? A game that went wrong? Or a moment of clumsiness? The fear that it would be considered murder? This could explain why the death was not declared... These are hypotheses that cannot be ruled out.
- (S) Complements
Here we add some additional information subsequent to the first publication on March 24, 2024.
- March 26, 2025. Variant of the Pressibus scenario. In the family photo, Anne-Marie (standing between Jean-Claude and Monique) is holding her stomach, as if she were pregnant. ChatGPT dates the photo to the very beginning of 1953 (P.-S. 97), based on the age of the four older children). Brigitte Trogneux was born on April 23, 1953. Does this mean that Anne-Marie is her mother? In which case, although she is Jean-Michel's sister on the civil status register, she would be his niece biologically... And it is Jean-Michel / "Brigitte" Macron herself who claims that one of her nieces died in 1960. Let us add that Simone, the mother, does not appear to be pregnant...
This is a variant of the Pressibus scenario, but not the one whose family tree was presented in the previous appendix S9, where the mother is another sister, Monique.
- March 30, 2025. Variant of the F&D527 scenario. A correspondent presents us with a scenario according to which Véronique / Jean-Michel 1977 would have undergone surgery and therefore could not be a father. André Louis Auzière and Brigitte No. 1 Trogneux would therefore be the biological parents of the three Auzière children, while an unknown father and Véronique Dreux would be the biological parents of the two Trogneux children, this unknown father also being the biological father of Emmanuel Macron (hence the resemblance between Jean-Jacques and Emmanuel). The disappearance of Brigitte No. 1 was said to have been sudden and André Louis Auzière was allegedly involved. He was then said to have been blackmailed by the Trogneux family, which would explain his silence and withdrawal.
Returning to the table in the previous appendix T8, point 11) "father or uncle" is attenuated, going from -2 to -1, for a total that would go from -8 to -7. As for a sudden and unexpected death in 1984 of the bride of 1974, it seems excluded, since the departure for Alsace would have been prepared as early as 1983 (P.-S. 113d). Moreover, in P.-S. 94aa1, we considered it probable that Jean-Michel retained his male attributes, which would reduce the total by -7...
- March 26, 2025. Variant of the Pressibus scenario. In the family photo, Anne-Marie (standing between Jean-Claude and Monique) is holding her stomach, as if she were pregnant. ChatGPT dates the photo to the very beginning of 1953 (P.-S. 97), based on the age of the four older children). Brigitte Trogneux was born on April 23, 1953. Does this mean that Anne-Marie is her mother? In which case, although she is Jean-Michel's sister on the civil status register, she would be his niece biologically... And it is Jean-Michel / "Brigitte" Macron herself who claims that one of her nieces died in 1960. Let us add that Simone, the mother, does not appear to be pregnant...
- (S) The Brigitte Trogneux/Auzière double identity hypothesis
June 2025. The complete questioning of the validity of the January 1953 family photo leads to a more significant reorientation than that carried out in March 2025 in the previous appendices. The “Niece A” scenario that we previously examined in Appendix S 7 assumes that Louis Auzière and Anne-Marie (or Annie) Trogneux are the biological parents of Brigitte Trogneux, born in 1953 in Amiens. We have noted, based on the doctored photo from January 1953 and her absence from school before 1960, that little Brigitte seems to have been absent from Amiens. We have hypothesized that she was hidden for medical reasons. But what if she was simply in Africa with her father?
Let's imagine that Annie found it difficult to live with her daughter while being considered her aunt. This would also be a hindrance to starting new romantic relationships... The biological father, Louis Auzière, who lives in Cameroon, offers to take care of the child with his wife Renée Costes while Annie starts a family, as her parents wish.
In 1960, as was more or less planned, the little girl Brigitte returns to Amiens. The decision to send 15-year-old Jean-Michel to Algiers on a secret mission may have been used to facilitate this return.
So, in this case, Brigitte did not die: she had certainly disappeared, and her reappearance led people to believe that another Brigitte had come along, but it was the same person who returned and, in a way, came back to life. The return may have been made in stages, during school holidays (but why are there no photos?) (or there is a composite photo with Brigitte and Simone in 1956 added to the photo from January 1953).
This hypothesis has another advantage: it explains the presence of a Brigitte Auzière as a witness at the 1980 wedding. In the early 1950s, Louis Auzière was a colonial administrator with considerable powers. He even rigged elections in Cameroon (Appendix A 18). He was a “special agent,” i.e., a secret agent, like his father and brother-in-law Georges Costes. He therefore made sure to register his daughter with the civil authorities: a double identity could always be useful in the future. Thus, the bride in 1974, mother of the three Auzière children, would have had the double identity of Brigitte Trogneux and Brigitte Auzière from birth (or almost), and not since 1960 as we had believed.
This new hypothesis therefore calls into question the Pressibus 2022 scenario. The latter certainly remains a strong possibility, as it is difficult to believe that “Brigitte” Macron would have mentioned the death of a niece in 1960 without there being some truth behind it. But she may have had the perversity to cover her tracks...
In any case, with this new hypothesis, the Pressibus 2022 scenario loses its status as a firm belief and becomes a probability.
- (S) The bisexual father hypothesis
In mid-June 2025, the publication of two new photos of André Louis Auzière gave more substance to the theory that he was fictional. Admittedly, as we explained in P.S. 21, these photos could be of someone else, such as Pierre Louis Auzière, the uncle of the three children, who appears very mysterious.
This does not prevent these photos from reinforcing Xavier Poussard's F&D527 scenario. However, this scenario remains implausible in many respects. Above all, it means that “Brigitte” Macron would be the uncle of the three children. How could such a substitution have happened? Xavier presents the following case (in his book, page 296): “A sister who knows she is terminally ill entrusts the care of her children and her identity to her brother, to whom she is very close and who has always felt like a woman!” Indeed, it takes a very strong constraint, such as illness, a serious crisis, or danger of death, for a mother to abandon her children. However, in the case of the serious crisis of 1984, the father was there to take over, a role expressly mentioned during the wedding ceremony. If André Louis did not do so, what could be the reason? Here are two possibilities:- He may have been unable to do so. In this case, he would have sought help, first from his family, then from his community. However, he distanced himself completely from his family by moving to Strasbourg.
- André Louis and Jean-Michel were in love with each other. It is understandable that they would distance themselves from their bourgeois families, who would disapprove of their homosexual love.
Tiphaine was reportedly raised during her first ten years by a homosexual couple. And above is the oldest photo of her, around the age of 7 (1991), with her uncle-mother.
The move to Alsace therefore points to the second case. Xavier Poussard did not mention it, but any other explanation would make his scenario significantly less likely. Jean-Michel Trogneux allegedly abandoned his two female lovers, Brigitte and Véronique, to devote himself to his male lover, his brother-in-law André Louis Auzière.
If Jean-Michel's homosexuality is consistent with his life (“Véronica,” etc.), that of André, a father of three, would be surprising, but why not? However, this does not explain the character's extremely reserved behavior. Let us remember that, according to the neighbors of number 4 Rue des Coquelicots in Truchtersheim, the Auzière couple seemed well integrated. The father mowed the lawn... In his book, Xavier Poussard considers the statements Emmanuelle Anizon collected from Jean-Louis Auzière to be true. However, Jean-Louis Auzière claims that in 2019, at the funeral of his nephew André Louis, his last partner was present. And not his last companion...
But the key point lies elsewhere: Jean-Michel Trogneux had two other very young children in 1984: Jean-Jacques and Valérie Trogneux, aged 2 and a few months old, both legitimate children from his marriage in 1980 to Véronique Dreux. What kind of father would abandon his two children to raise three nephews in their place? He would have to be extremely angry with the mother, and even more than that, because visitation rights and joint custody are granted to parents who are angry with each other.
Furthermore, we know that the abandonment was not complete. Jean-Jacques and Valérie appear in a family photograph taken in 1991, and Jean-Jacques was present at the inauguration in 2017.
Even assuming that the biological mother Brigitte died (without this being declared) (and this is not in the Poussard scenario), why would Jean-Michel have detached himself from his two children and why would he have left to raise three nephews with their father?
- (S) The white marriage hypothesis
This hypothesis answers the question that has just been asked.
We took this line of reasoning further, starting with the question: how is it that Jean-Michel Trogneux, who appears to be homosexual with no heterosexual attraction, could have had children? Assuming he had two rather than five, are we really sure he is their father?
We then imagined the existence of a love triangle (opposite) between Jean-Michel Trogneux (JMT), Véronique Dreux (VD) and a married man (HM), whom we do not know. HM and JMT are very much in love with each other, HM and VD are very much in love with each other, JMT and VD are not in love with each other at all but like each other and enjoy working together in a candy and haberdashery shop called “Tentations,” located in Beauvais (Appendix A 38). VD and HM want to have children, but HM wants to hide this from his legal wife.
How do they manage to live like this? They invent a sham marriage between JMT and VD in 1980, and the two children that HM and VD have, Jean-Jacques and Valérie, are registered as the children of JMT and VD. They take the name Trogneux, even though no Trogneux blood runs in their veins.
JMT's parents don't know this, but they are reassured to see their son finally settling down, getting married, and having children. All's well that ends well, as in a boulevard comedy...
Let's apply this hypothesis to scenarios where JMT has two children: he no longer has any. This corresponds to a homosexual who is not bisexual, which could well be the case with Jean-Michel Trogneux.
The next question is: who is HM? Two answers seem relevant:
- HM is Jean-Michel Macron, Emmanuel's father. In this case, Emmanuel Macron would be a half-brother of Jean-Jacques Trogneux, and all those who believe in their strong facial resemblance (see opposite) would be right.
- HM is André Louis Auzière. And we can understand why, four years after the sham marriage, André and Jean-Michel became a couple and moved to Truchstersheim.
In both cases, the question posed at the end of the previous appendix is answered: Jean-Michel would have preferred his three nephews to his two children simply because those two children are not biologically his. The second answer seems more likely to us than the first, as it is simpler and fully consistent with the following episode in 1984.
- (S) The Pressibus 2025 scenario of the homosexual Auzière-Trogneux couple
The three hypotheses just presented, namely dual identity, bisexual father, and sham marriage, are compatible. We combine them here to obtain a new scenario, called Pressibus 2025, which is as different as possible from our Pressibus 2022 scenario, which, let us remind you, remains probable in our view. To simplify, let us say that these two scenarios seem equally probable to us.
Here is an illustration of this Pressibus 2025 scenario:
It should be understood that we are not presenting two scenarios, but rather a range of scenarios between Pressibus 2022 and Pressibus 2025. In Pressibus 2022 (Appendix S 5), we can, for example, add the assumptions of the niece, the two Brigittes, and uncle-niece incest to obtain the “nieceA” scenario, seen in Appendix S 7. In Pressibus 2025, we can remove the sham marriage (JMT would then be bisexual, father of two children), we can replace the bisexual father with the fictional father with uncle-niece incest, etc.
Note that the hypothesis of dual identity and sham marriage combine well to explain why Brigitte presented herself as a witness at the sham marriage in 1980 under her Auzière identity: it was a way of signifying that there were also the Auzières, André the biological father, behind the Trogneux-Dreux marriage. At André's request?
This situation then became unbearable, especially with the births of Tiphaine and Valérie in quick succession. It is therefore not surprising that a crisis and a restructuring took place in 1984.
In the Pressibus 2022 scenario, Jean-Michel Trogneux is at the center of the tree, with five children. In the 2025 scenario, André Auzière is at the center and he is the father of the five children! This is not surprising considering that, like his father, grandfather, and uncle, he was probably a secret agent. This would be the primary cause of his extreme discretion, combined with a possible erasure of everything concerning him. Thus, someone who appeared fictional or insignificant would suddenly take on paramount importance.
We mustn't overlook the role of Jean-Michel Trogneux. In this new scenario, he is the “hit man,” the one who destroys the heterosexual marriage of André and Brigitte, then the homosexual marriage of André and himself.
Mr. and Mrs. Auzière around 1991?
This scenario raises some questions. Let us recall this famous quote from “Brigitte” Macron: “I know I hurt my children, and that's what I blame myself for the most. But I couldn't not do it. There are moments in your life when you make vital choices. And for me, that was one of them.” (Chapter 10). While such a sentence rings true in scenarios where Jean-Michel Trogneux is the father, the same cannot be said for an uncle: “Dad loves Uncle, Mom has to go away, Uncle dresses up to replace her, and we're all okay with that.” Of course, we know that “Brigitte” Macron knows how to lie and twist the truth... One might also wonder, for example, why no one told Truchtersheim that Mr. Auzière was bald? Was there a gag order? What pressure was exerted to ensure that it was so well followed?
In any case, in solving the mystery of the biological parents of the Auzière children, we are multiplying hypotheses, when we should be reducing them! Where should we draw the line?
Readers will find another, shorter presentation of this scenario and its hypotheses in Postscript 122. - (T) Emmanuel Macron, his family and his childhood
Officially, according to the civil registry, Emmanuel Macron was born in Amiens on December 21, 1977. His parents, both doctors, are Jean-Michel Macron, professor and head of the neurology department at Amiens University Hospital, born in 1950, and Françoise Noguès, medical advisor for social security, born in 1950. Married in 1976, they divorced in 2010. They had three children:- Emmanuel, born December 21, 1977,
- Laurent, born in 1979,
- Estelle, born in 1984.
In 2005, Jean-Michel Macron had a son, Gabriel, with Hélène Joly. In 2010, he remarried her.
On the left, Emmanuel, his parents, his sister and his brother. This photo, which appeared in Paris-Match in 2017, may not be authentic.
On the right, Emmanuel between his parents and with his brother Laurent in May 2017.
The above photos (and also the two previous ones) come from issue 3547 of "Paris Match", dated May 10, 2017, devoted to the new President of the Republic, just after his election. They surprised Xavier Poussard, who noticed the absence of family members: "Published only once, these photographs were not republished on the Internet, as is customary. Inexplicably, they were not incorporated into the authorized biographies produced later." It is therefore doubtful that these are photos of Emmanuel Macron. We also have a class photo provided to the newspaper "L'Alsace" by Jean-Michel Macron in April 2022 (Appendix A 29). On analysis, it is surprising: there are two teachers for a large number of pupils, and the attitude of most of the children is strange, to the point that some believe they can make out children with Down's syndrome. However, this photo of a preparatory class, 1983/1984, is said to come from the Delpech primary school, next to the Macron home, and not from a specialized school. Emmanuel would then be six years old.
In the following photos, from 1990, Emmanuel would have been twelve years old, when the "black hole" came to an end. The first of the three photos is of his baptism, a surprisingly late baptism, as his parents had not wanted to take him to a priest after his birth. Under what circumstances was he baptized? There is no answer. The following two photos were taken in the 7th grade at the "La Providence" secondary school, in a class photo and in class.
Yet Emmanuel is supposed to have grown up in the midst of a close-knit family of three children. There is an extraordinary parallel here with the lack of photos of the three Auzière children. At the end of the 20th century, such families without photos of parents with their young children, are they not very rare? At this level, we can even consider the possibility of a hidden common past Sylvie Bommel notes that Emmanuel "devotes five pages to his grandmother Manette. Hardly a single page to his parents. And two lines to his brother Laurent and his sister Estelle, just enough time to mention that they are a radiologist and a nephrologist and that he was therefore the only one in the family not to participate in the medical discussions that lasted for hours". So the parents and brother and sister would be transparent, and the only one who mattered would be the maternal grandmother Manette, born Germaine Arribet in Tarbes in 1916, geography teacher, secondary school headmistress. We introduced her in Chapter 17 and in Appendix A 14, entitled "Manette, a strange and gloomy grandmother." Living in Amiens, one street away from her parents, Emmanuel is said to have spent most of his childhood with her. When he married "Brigitte" in 2007, the groom's parents were absent, but his grandmother was there (photo opposite).
Emmanuel knows very little about his brother and sister, and apparently nothing at all about his half-brother Gabriel. "No, he's a distant cousin. Everyone's getting on my nerves with this guy! " (article), that's how Laurent felt about Emmanuel, before their relationship improved. As for Estelle, she completely ignores her brother, and it's mutual. As part of his investigation "Deux jeunesses françaises" (Two French Youths), the journalist Hervé Algalarrondo recounts: "A Bigourdan elected representative told me of his surprise during a visit by the president to Bagnères. Out of kindness, he had asked him about his sister, Estelle, who lives nearby. Emmanuel Macron turned to Brigitte for an answer." Such a remark is extraordinary, and, once again, one wonders if the Auzières, ‘Brigitte’ and her children might not have a past in common with the Macrons.
- (T) The mystery of Emmanuel Macron's stillborn older sister <==== CHAPTER UNDER CONSTRUCTION
Here we include large extracts from Appendix A 21.
According to the "legend" told in celebrity magazines, Emmanuel Macron had a big sister who was stillborn. This is how it is recounted in an article in France-Dimanche of February 25, 2017:Emmanuel Macron: The tragedy that haunted his childhood!
The energetic and charismatic presidential candidate, Emmanuel Macron, hides deep within him a family tragedy that occurred shortly before his birth. [...]
When you read the Picard biography, you discover that he is the eldest of three children. This is not entirely true. Ten months before giving birth to Emmanuel, Jean-Michel and Françoise experienced the cruellest of ordeals: losing their baby. A stillborn baby girl. Could the couple have avoided this terrible accident? It is possible that, both being doctors, he at the city hospital and she at the Social Security office, this question haunted them. Even though barely two months after the tragedy, Françoise was pregnant again.
Was it to implore divine protection on their unborn son that they named him Emmanuel, which means "God is with us"? In any case, it was a gift from heaven that came to them on December 21, 1977, four days before Christmas. But while life reasserts itself, death is still lurking. As Claude Askolovitch wrote in Vanity Fair: "Françoise bears the wound. Every February, the pain is excruciating. Now retired, she exudes a suspended suffering that I feel the day I meet her because she wants to talk to me about her son." How is a child who succeeds a dead baby built? [...]
Above, the older sister would have been born 10 months before Emmanuel, therefore in February 1977.
On geneanet's fraternelle.org, evolution of the file of Emmanuel Macron's stillborn sister.
On the left in 2022, the older sister was born on February 22, 1976, at the Saint-Antoine hospital in the 12th arrondissement of Paris, record no. 530.
On the right in 2025, the older sister has no date or place of birth, we only know that she was born before Emmanuel.
We have searched the French register of deceased persons meticulously for official records of the death of the child who would have been stillborn in 1976 (record no. 530!) or in 1977, in vain:The untraceable stillborn older sister
There are files of people who have died in France, for public use. A Brigitte Bardot expert with good knowledge of how to access this data searched for the names of the stillborn children of Noguès and Macron (even with approximate spellings). He found only two references: "Macron, Philippe Marc Michel born in Croix on 20/09/1970 and died on the same day in Lille", "Noguès, Sophie Joëlle Marie born in Rennes on 01/07/1974 and died on the same day in Rennes". He then extended his search to children who died before the age of two. Then he focused on the 12th arrondissement of Paris in 1976: he found 4 girls and 14 boys whose full names did not allow any connection to be made. Finally, on February 22, 1976, throughout France: there were only two babies (boys) born and died on that day, one in the Meuse, the other in Lyon.
There remains a record with no first name, even if it is rare. There are only 3 stillborn children with no first name who died on the day of their birth in France in the 70s (which have nothing to do with our case). There is the even rarer case of a stillborn child not declared or not received and processed by INSEE, which says that there may be gaps.
This child therefore seems to be fictitious, but why say that he "haunted his childhood"? The testimonies are contradictory. Sylvie Bommel, whose investigation is nevertheless thorough, in her book "Il venait d'avoir dix-sept ans" (He had just turned seventeen), does not say a word about the stillborn older sister, as does Emmanuel Macron himself in his 2016 book "Révolution".
The stillborn child makes it possible to prove that the couple of Emmanuel's official parents would have been constituted well before his birth, which is reassuring for the public and avoids indiscreet research. Emmanuel's middle name is Jean-Michel, which, more than the name of Jean-Michel Macron, could take the name of the older brother of his mother Françoise, a doctor, who would have helped his sister in this difficult period. Manette, Françoise's mother, is also said to have provided valuable assistance, which explains her attachment to the child. It cannot even be ruled out that, as a young child, Emmanuel Macron was first called Emmanuel Noguès before being recognized by Jean-Michel Macron. Furthermore, we note the lack of precision regarding the date of the Macron parents' marriage, referring only to the year 1976: "around 1976" on the sheet 2022, with no date indicated on the sheet 2025.
What if these events were invented? Did the marriage take place in 1977, shortly before the birth? Could Françoise Noguès have met Jean-Michel Macron when she was pregnant with Emmanuel? Could the stillborn child have been invented to ward off suspicion?
We believed it. Mimi Marchand's hand was clearly behind these manipulations... It is very rare and suspicious for such an act of genealogy to be very precise: act no. 530 for a birth/death on February 22, 1976, at 6:10 a.m., at the Saint-Antoine hospital in the 12th arrondissement of Paris. This helps keep out the curious. But when the curious ones get too close, poof, everything disappears... And the wedding date disappears too, even though it should have been specified, as is usually the case. Yes, it was all very suspicious.
At the beginning of April 2025, two weeks after making our doubts public, as mentioned above, we received a copy of deed no. 530 from Saint-Antoine Hospital, which appears to be authentic. We have therefore abandoned this hypothesis.
- (T) Did "Brigitte" and Emmanuel know each other before 1990?
Twice, in the previous appendix, we suspected that Jean-Michel Trogneux and Emmanuel Macron may have known each other well before the usually suggested date of September 1992, during a theater class at the "La Providence" high school in Amiens. These two suspicions were certainly slight, but we had previously spotted others. Let's go over them all, starting with the two we just mentioned:- For the three Auzière children, as for Emmanuel, we don't know of any photos of them as children with their parents, even though they are supposed to have lived in close-knit, traditional families. Could this be for a common reason?
- "Brigitte" Macron seems to know more about Emmanuel's sister than Emmanuel does. Could they have a distant past in common?
- Françoise Noguès, Emmanuel Macron's mother, was the "head doctor of the Caisse Primaire d'Assurance Maladie" responsible for providing administrative support to people changing gender. In P.-S. 54, we wrote: "One wonders if, in this context, she did not meet Pastor Doucé and also the ‘transsexual’ Brigitte / Jean-Michel, even before they had an affair with her son, the young Emmanuel..."
- [repeated from an excerpt of our review of Xavier Poussard's book in P.-S. 105b page 130] Emmanuel Macron's mother, Françoise Noguès, said to Gaël Tchakaloff: "For me, Brigitte is not a daughter-in-law". Could it be that he is her son-in-law, one is tempted to ask ? However, this is in addition to other comments reported in the same way and included in Chapter 24, point 5: "The two women have known each other all their lives. They were neighbors in Amiens". It was on this occasion that Françoise Noguès introduced Brigitte as "a friend like no other, we have the same affinities, the same priorities, we tell each other everything". On page 321, Xavier Poussard returns to this rejection of the term "stepdaughter" and concludes: "What if, in a kind of mirror image, the theater workshop had in fact consisted only of staging the meeting between ‘Brigitte’ and Emmanuel Macron in front of witnesses?" We go further, suggesting that the "friends" who have "always been friends" could have known each other from Emmanuel's early childhood, or even before.
- In the box of P.-S. 94ae, Candace Owens recounts that Véronique Dreux, former wife of Jean-Michel Trogneux, said to Xavier Poussard (anecdote on page 316 of her book) : "I know Emmanuel's father, not very well, but he was a surgeon at the hospital in Amiens, but I didn't know Emmanuel Macron, we lived in Toulon, I didn't even know him, I saw him for the first time at my daughter's wedding". We added: "In fact, Emmanuel Macron's father was a neurologist, not a surgeon, but it doesn't matter. Valérie got married on June 21, 2008. At that time, Emmanuel's father was still angry with his son, since he was not present at his wedding in 2007. Véronique Dreux therefore, logically, knew Emmanuel's father before he fell out with his son, in 1993. However, Emmanuel's father is not related to her or to her former husband Jean-Michel Trogneux. Here, the explanation is more difficult to find, but a hypothesis emerges: Emmanuel's parents may have been present at Véronique Dreux's wedding in 1980... So Jean-Michel Trogneux may have known little Emmanuel in the 1980s."
We have converging clues here that can help us build hypotheses. Before we get to that, we have other, unusual elements to present.
- (T) Could Emmanuel's parents on record not be his biological parents?
Emmanuel Macron was born on December 21, 1977, in Amiens. We have seen how weak his ties are with his parents, his brother Laurent (two years younger), and his sister Estelle (seven years younger), while those with his maternal grandmother are very strong. Appendix A 13 provides further information on the family:- in 1980, Françoise Noguès dedicated her thesis "to Jean Michel, to Emmanuel and to Laurent with all my love", which, conversely, is in line with a close-knit family.
- In 1990, at Emmanuel's christening, his godfather was Jean-Michel Noguès, his uncle on his mother's side. The latter is married to a teacher, Lucette Duponchel, who was the headmistress of Manette (hence the marriage to her son) and who then taught, from 1973 to 1996, at the Delpech primary school in Amiens, where Emmanuel was photographed in 1980.
- On the Noguès side, Emmanuel also has an aunt, Marie-Christine, married Leprêtre, who, unlike the godfather, does not seem to be close to her nephew.
- "It appears that Emmanuel spent very little time with his paternal side, even though they lived in Amiens and, not far away, in Coudun.", whether it be his grandparents or his aunt Françoise Macron, married name Bacciochini.
It appears that Emmanuel is much closer to his mother's family than to his father's, with Manette and Jean-Michel Noguès. It should be added that, in very general terms, it is obviously much easier to have a biological father who is not registered with the civil status authorities (and whom the mother may not even know) than to have an unregistered biological mother. It is even rare that the biological mother is not known in genealogy.
At this stage, the probability that Jean-Michel Macron is not Emmanuel's father seems quite high. However, a few considerations point to a decrease in this probability:- a certain physical resemblance between Emmanuel and Laurent (opposite),
- the parental couple was young when Emmanuel was born and, probably united by the birth of the stillborn daughter, one or two months before Emmanuel's conception.
This gap between the two births is striking, as it is so short: February - December 21, only 10 months (confirmed by an article from ‘France-Dimanche’), less the 9 months of pregnancy, there are only one or two months left. Such a gap seems rare (articles: 1 2 3, 4), but Emmanuel may have been premature, which would increase this gap. "A short interval between pregnancies is associated with a significantly higher risk of maternal transfusion in the immediate postpartum period, prematurity, low birth weight, hypotrophy, neonatal resuscitation and SGA" (link). When the parents are doctors, and therefore aware of the risks, it is legitimate to ask: doesn't this increase the likelihood that Françoise Noguès is not Emmanuel's biological mother?
Yes, but is it significant, or even important? It seems difficult to give an answer. Knowing more about the environment in which the Macron couple lived in 1977 could help...
- (T) How did the Rothschilds become Emmanuel's protectors?
We are going to take a few extracts from P.S. 67 and add to them, in order to recall the very special place of the Rothschild family in the Macron couple.
"Faits & Documents" devoted its 492nd issue of December 2020 to the relationship between Macron and the bank that employed him from 2008 to 2012. Extracts: "His support at the top of the bank, notably David de Rothschild and his right-hand man François Henrot, enabled him to bypass his immediate hierarchy. [...] From a legal point of view, Emmanuel Macron therefore never left the civil service during his entire time at Rothschild & Cie between 2008 and 2012. He was therefore never "reinstated" when he was appointed to François Hollande at the Elysée on May 14, 2012. "I have never seen anything like it," reacted the president of the public service ethics committee when "Marianne" (October 24, 2014) submitted the Macron case to him.
Without the Rothschilds yet seeming to be able to be suspected, Emmanuel Macron had previously benefited from strange support upon entering (2002) and leaving (2004) the famous ENA school. And then, without ever having been elected in a local election (which François Hollande nevertheless required at the beginning of his term of office), he became Minister of the Economy in 2014. During the 2016/2017 election campaign, his most formidable opponents were surprisingly eliminated, notably François Hollande and François Fillon. The Rothschilds do not appear to be suspected of this either. But, from the ENA to the Elysée, the sequence of fortunate circumstances is such that it is difficult to believe that several sources of support independent of each other have made this rise possible. Macron is the king of the "pistonnés", and the most visible and most capable of doing so is the Rothschild family.
We come to the same conclusion when we look at the question from the other side: who benefited from the crime? Yes: who benefited from the presidency of Macron, the man with a trillion-dollar debt? The answer is the bankers, whether directly through the debt or indirectly through arms sales, etc. And so the most important of the bankers is the Rothschild family. The profitability of a Macron is enormous...
Among the Rothschilds, the one closest to the Macrons is David de Rothschild. Both with Emmanuel and with "Brigitte".
David with Emmanuel and "Brigitte"
The last chapter, epilogue, of the book ‘Devenir Brigitte’ by Xavier Poussard is entitled ‘Le sang des Rothschild’ (The blood of the Rothschilds). It includes the following comments by economist Gaël Giraud, who holds a doctorate in mathematics and theology: "Emmanuel Macron is David de Rothschild's gun-toting bodyguard. So in a way, the person Emmanuel Macron, on whom we are very focused, is not very interesting. He is a boy who is executing a program dictated to him by others, notably David de Rothschild." When and how could such a program have been instilled? When: probably before Emmanuel was 12, in the darkness of his childhood. How? Two hypotheses emerge.
- Hypothesis 1: Emmanuel Macron is himself a Rothschild. A physical resemblance to certain members of the family suggests this:
Left: Nelly de Rothschild and her parents Elie and Liliane, older and younger. Right: Emmanuel Macron with Liliane, Nelly and David de Rothschild, younger and older.
Furthermore, the strong links of the Macron couple with a photographer of the family with scandalous remarks also raise questions.
Jean-Michel Darrois (yet another Jean-Michel...) and his wife, the photographer Bettina Rheims, grandniece by marriage of Guy de Rothschild, David's father, are ‘close friends of the Macron couple’ (opposite is a photo of Bettina with her father on the left and her husband on the right). Bettina Rheims met Gabriel Matzneff, a writer accused of pedophilia, at the age of 15. His sister Nathalie is famous for having declared "Vice is nice but incest is best because it stays in the family" (article, video (1 min. 25 sec.).
David in yellow, Nelly in green, Bettina in orange
Above, we have displayed the names of David de Rothschild, Bettina Rheims, Guy and Nelly de Rothschild. Analysis of the family trees shows the distance between Guy and Nelly (father and daughter) and David and Bettina (uncle and niece): David and Nelly are distant cousins, the paternal grandfather of their paternal grandfather is the same or, if you prefer, their fathers are second cousins. We are therefore faced with a kind of contradiction: Nelly, who looks most like Emmanuel, is a distant cousin of David and Bettina, but they are very close to the Macron couple.
Assuming that there is a blood link between the Rothschilds and Emmanuel Macron, the very close relationship and complicity certainly takes precedence over physical resemblance. As a result, the Nelly hypothesis seems very unlikely. Only David's entourage should be taken into account in the search for a biological relationship.
In addition to the tree (above right) on the maternal side Shey and the paternal tree extended to the two aunts, Jacqueline and Bethsabée, it emerges from David's paternal tree (above center) that a potential parent of Emmanuel, born in 1977, would be either David himself, born in 1942, or his half-brother Edouard, born in 1957, or even one of their unrecognized brothers or sisters, if there are any.
There is therefore a strong probability that it was David himself, Bettina's uncle, the one who got Emmanuel a job at the Rothschild bank, the one who is very close to "Brigitte". In this first hypothesis, there would have been infidelity on the part of his mother Françoise Noguès.
- Hypothesis 2: Emmanuel Macron was programmed by the Rothschilds when he was a child
On February 10, 2025, in P.-S. 94aa3, we borrowed the following remarks from Alexandra Brazzainville, based on the CIA's secret MK-Ultra project, a project also mentioned by Candace Owens in her video series ‘Becoming Brigitte’.
Emmanuel Macron conditioned by MK-Uktra?
The MK-Ultra project uses the dissociation of psychological mechanisms, a dissociation that can be induced voluntarily or provoked. The aim of the MK-Ultra project is for a trained and controlled person to provoke a number of reactions in other people. This can be the obtaining of information, it can be confessions, it can be suicide, and therefore the disappearance of certain potentially dangerous people in the international political landscape. Many people under the influence and control of this MK-Ultra project are given massive doses of LSD in order to intensify this psychological dissociation and erase any manifestation of a certain objection that would call into question an ethical reflection. [...]
The President of the Republic, Emmanuel Macron, has all the symptoms of a person under MK-Ultra control. He seems to be permanently disconnected between his thoughts, his conception of the environment, and therefore his view of the environment in which he operates, the French Republic, very specifically the life of the French people, and his perception of identity, which seems very confused to him.
Emmanuel Macron seems to be emotionally anesthetized. At times, he seems devoid of emotion.
I suppose that this terrifying training has caused him to suffer amnesia, that is to say a voluntary forgetting of all the stages of his past in which little Emmanuel, as a young person or child, may have suffered intense trauma.
Paradoxically, the President of the Republic is also a person capable of going from totally inappropriate, sometimes even excessive reactions to moments of intense agitation and to moments when, like a child, he seeks physical contact for reassurance.
He is a victim in the hands of state criminals, who use him for purposes unknown to me.
I am doubtful and worried about what will happen to him after he leaves the Elysée. I suppose he will sink into a massive psychological implosion.
What is certain is that he is under the control of a person I do not know, to whom he must systematically report, a person who lives in his own head and tells him what to do, an extremely dangerous person. [...]
It is not a question of judging, it is a question of exposing, I would say, in a factual and realistic way, a situation that is complicated, but which will not be without consequences for the French Republic, and that is precisely the problem.
These proposals resonate with those, cited previously, of Gaël Giraud: "He is a boy who is carrying out a program dictated to him by others, notably David de Rothschild". Xavier Poussard takes a similar line (article). Such manipulation could make the search for Emmanuel's biological parents, who may, in fact, be the civil status authorities, a secondary issue. It steers the search towards the context of the meetings between Françoise Noguès and Jean-Michel Macron in 1977 and then towards Emmanuel's early childhood, in the first half of the 1980s, when the child may have come under MK-Ultra influence.
- Hypothesis 1: Emmanuel Macron is himself a Rothschild. A physical resemblance to certain members of the family suggests this:
- (T) The Macrons, Rothschilds, Trogneux and Doucés from 1977 to 1990
We saw in Appendix S 2 that it is likely that Jean-Michel Trogneux, a gender transitioning person, and Françoise Noguès, the doctor responsible for administratively overseeing the gender changes, knew each other very early on, possibly even before Emmanuel was born in 1977. At that time, Françoise was 27 years old, Jean-Michel was 32 years old and was interviewed as the "transsexual" Véronique on television (Appendix A 19). How could a television program producer at that time find a "transsexual" to interview? By contacting the man who was well-known for supporting this kind of practice, Pastor Joseph Doucé. This is how we presented this character in our Chapter 14.
Joseph Doucé was a Belgian Baptist minister, excommunicated, with a degree in psychology and sexology from the Protestant University of Amsterdam, naturalized French in 1982. He disappeared at the age of 45, on July 19, 1990. His body was reportedly found in the forest of Rambouillet on October 24, 1990. In 1976, he founded the Center of the Liberating Christ (CCL) in Paris. According to the group's mission statement, it was intended to provide a place where believers belonging to sexual and gender minorities could be welcomed and heard: homosexuals, transgenders, sado-masochists and also other sexual perverts including pedophiles, a criminal group under the law. Declaring himself a "practising homosexual" as much as a pastor (believer practising his faith), he welcomed, in various meetings or in his bookshop, under the good auspices of Christ, young people in distress who were having difficulty in affirming and living socially their specific sexuality considered as marginal, deviant or psychopathological.
Pastor Doucé, his shop, his office, his meetings, two of his books and a title about his death.
The provincial Jean-Michel Trogneux, alias Véronique, therefore almost certainly knew Pastor Doucé. For Françoise Noguès, it is less clear, but wanting to support those who want to change gender logically leads one to spend time in the pastor's premises. However, she may have developed this vocation later, after her 1980 thesis, devoted to "Celiac disease in children" (Appendix A 13), where, in the dedication, she seems very close to her husband and two children. It is possible that her friendship with Jean-Michel Trogneux guided her towards this late vocation, but after 1980. Moreover, Alexandra Brazzainville's good opinion of Françoise Noguès rules out the possibility that she led a dissolute life during the first year of her marriage.
For this reason, the probability that Emmanuel Macron is the son of Françoise Noguès and Jean-Michel Trogneux appears low. Similarly, the probability that Emmanuel Macron is the son of Françoise Noguès and Pastor Joseph Doucé seems low (hypothesis raised in Chapter 24).
But Françoise Noguès might not be the mother, which would make it easier for Jean-Michel Trogneux, Joseph Doucé or David de Rothschild to be the father. This would be the case if the Amiens residents Jean-Michel Trogneux and Françoise Noguès had known each other before 1977, and if Jean-Michel Trogneux had led Françoise Noguès into an adventure that is less improbable than it may seem at first glance :The possibility of a secret adoption (in which Françoise Noguès would not be the mother)
In 1977, Jean-Michel Trogneux was a regular at Parisian nightclubs, which he knew well from his student days in the capital. He also attended Pastor Doucé's meetings. This led him to meet a young pregnant woman who did not want to keep her child, but wanted the child to live and receive material support, together with the father.
Assuming or not that Françoise Noguès gave birth to a stillborn daughter ( Appendix T 2), we can imagine that she was afraid of never having any more children and that she was attentive to a proposal from her friend Jean-Michel Trogneux to adopt the baby we have just mentioned. The agreement of her husband Jean-Michel Macron and the support of friendly medical circles would have made it possible to make it appear as if she had given birth.
Then, the biological Rothschild parent, if there is one, would have ensured the education and social advancement of his child Emmanuel Macron. If there is no Rothschild parent, David de Rothschild could alternatively have taken the baby under his wing as well, so that he could be subjected to the MK-Ultra project.
Such a scenario has the advantage of explaining the Rothschild support, with strong consent from Emmanuel's "legal" parents. It also explains the distance between the adopted child and the biological children of the Macron parents, this distancing having appeared with the birth of Laurent and Estelle.
We can assume that Manette, the beloved grandmother, was aware of the circumstances of Emmanuel's birth. Her attitude could be a reaction to the parents' preference for Laurent and Estelle. She may have approved of the Rothschilds taking charge, more so than her daughter and son-in-law. She would have understood that Emmanuel's education should be geared towards the promising future that the support he was now receiving would bring him.
At this stage, a range of possibilities opens up:- The father could be David de Rothschild or Pastor Doucé or Jean-Michel Trogneux himself, or someone else. Possibly Jean-Michel Macron, but then it is difficult to explain the influence of the Rothschilds.
- The mother could be a Rothschild or someone else.
- The father and mother may have anonymously abandoned their child. The Rothschilds would then have intervened to ensure a bright, remote-controlled future for him, as part of the MK-Ultra project.
Following what has been studied previously, in the event that one of the parents is a Rothschild, the most likely biological parents would be, in decreasing order of probability:- David de Rothschild and a woman who has lost interest in the child,
- Pastor Doucé and a Rothschild woman,
- Jean-Michel Trogneux and a Rothschild woman.
We have seen that it is difficult to find a Rothschild woman who could be the mother, whereas for the father, it is easy with David.
Why is Pastor Doucé so important? Because of what we noticed in Chapter 24:- At around the age of 12, therefore in 1989/1990, Emmanuel Macron was baptized and it was only then that photos from his childhood came to light. Before that, there is a lack of clarity. Only an important event could have caused such an upheaval. 1990 was the year of the death of Pastor Doucé. Losing a religious father can provoke a religious impulse, even if one is Protestant (the pastor) and the other Catholic (the child, in a Catholic school).
- It should be added that in the 1980s, being the son of Joseph Doucé, a well-known figure, must not have been easy. In addition to a mother who was not very present, busy with her official household, Emmanuel really did not have a traditional family, hence the obscurity that surrounds his childhood. Moreover, did he spend his childhood in Amiens?
- We also note that Emmanuel was born in 1977, just one year after the creation of the CCL when the pastor settled in Paris. Moreover, Emmanuel is a name that means "God is among us", a messianic name that a religious person could give. With this name and such a childhood, it would not be surprising if he had wanted to force fate...
- (T) Photographic comparisons
Too often, comparisons of photos are bandied about, with people saying "Look how similar they are, they must be brothers". This is particularly true of Emmanuel Macron and Jean-Jacques Trogneux. But when you take a closer look...
Jean-Jacques Trogneux (son of Jean-Michel) and Emmanuel Macron. On the left, Betaface comparison (68%).
In the center and on the right, Face++ comparisons, low probability.
Carried out in Appendix A 15, Betaface comparison of Jean-Michel Macron with his two children Laurent and Emmanuel (64, 62, 61%) then Laurent with Emmanuel (74, 73%)
Jean-Michel Macron, Laurent Macron, Emmanuel Macron (64, 62, 61%) - Laurent and Emmanuel Macron (74, 73%)
Emmanuel Macron and Joseph Doucé (69, 67, 65%)
David de Rothschild and Emmanuel Macron (normal, low) - Emmanuel Macron and Nelly de Rothschild (62%)
We have presented these comparisons in order not to hide them, to show that nothing can be deduced from them and that it is appropriate to draw conclusions without taking them into account.
- (T) In conclusion, a range of hypotheses
Here we group together the hypotheses put forward in the previous appendices, ranking them in the same way as in 2022 in Chapter 33, according to the following scale: 0 - rejected, 1 - unlikely but plausible, 2 - perhaps, 3 - fairly likely, 4 - probable, 5 - almost certain (firm conviction), 6 - certain. To this, we add the following characteristics in order of decreasing probability:- **: case in which Françoise Noguès is the mother and Jean-Michel Macron is not the father.
- + MK-UltraX: case in which the young child Emmanuel Macron is subjected to conditioning by the Rothschilds (directly or indirectly), by the MK-Ultra project, or by X, i.e. similar indoctrination (in particular with a sexual liaison). These are the cases where there is no biological Rothschild parent. In this way, the Rothschild imprint is present in all scenarios.
- *: case of a clandestine adoption exposed in the box of Appendix T 5. These are the cases where Françoise Noguès is not the biological mother.
Level Hypothesis of the biological parents of Emmanuel Macron Reference 4 - Probable TFJ. Jean-Michel Macron and Françoise Noguès + MK-UltraX Appendix T 6 3 - Quite likely TRF. David de Rothschild and Françoise Noguès ** Appendix T 5 2 - Maybe TDF. Joseph Doucé and Françoise Noguès ** + MK-UltraX Appendix T 6 TTF. Jean-Michel Trogneux and Françoise Noguès ** + MK-UltraX Annexe T 2 TXR. The mother is a Rothschild * Appendix T 5 1 - Unlikely
but plausibleTXF. another man than JMM, DR, JD, JMT and Françoise Noguès ** + MK-UltraX Appendix T 6 TJY. Jean-Michel Macron and another woman, Françoise Noguès * + MK-UltraX Appendix T 6 TDY. Joseph Doucé and another woman, Françoise Noguès * + MK-UltraX Appendix T 6 TTY. Jean-Michel Trogneux and another woman than Françoise Noguès * + MK-UltraX Appendix T 2 TXY. another man than JMM, DR, JD, JMT and another woman than Françoise Noguès * + MK-UltraX Appendix T 6
Comparing with table 2022 of Chapter 33, we find three almost similar lines, having this evolution:- TDF = AJ Joseph Doucé is the biological father of Emmanuel Macron. Remains at 2.
- TFJ = AN Jean-Michel Macron is the biological father of Emmanuel Macron. Goes from 2 to 4.
- TTF = AQ Emmanuel Macron and Jean-Jacques Trogneux have the same father Jean-Michel / Brigitte Trogneux. Goes from 1 to 2.
(this means that Emmanuel Macron would have married his biological father... "Incest is best", as Nathalie Rheims says...)
Thus, from 2022 to 2025, for the designation of Emmanuel Macron's biological parents, our number of hypotheses has increased from three to twelve, including one estimated as "probable" and another as "fairly probable". We are making slow progress, as Emmanuel Macron's childhood is so well concealed. How could the French have placed their trust in such an obscure figure?
- (T) First complements
We are adding here some additional information subsequent to the first publication on March 24, 2024.
- March 26, 2025. Grok Artificial Intelligence was asked about the black and gray holes in Emmanuel Macron's bibliography. By consulting the Internet archives, here is his answer for the years 2004-2008:
- Observation: After graduating from ENA in 2004, where he joined the Inspection des finances, and before joining Rothschild in 2008, few articles detail his activities. This four-year period remains unclear, despite his status as a senior civil servant.
- Context: Promising ENA graduates sometimes attract the attention of the specialized or economic media, but Macron went under the radar until he entered the private sector. Interpretation: This could reflect a discreet career in the civil service, but also a lack of voluntary spotlighting or a retrospective erasure of this period.
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March 28, 2025. The class photo of Emmanuel Macron's 1983/1984 class from Annexe T 1 has been on the Internet since 2017, on a page linkedin de Carole Muir. It appears from the comments
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that Carole Muir and Emmanuel Macron (who met again in 2016 or 2018, linkedin page) were in the same class throughout their primary education, from CP to CM2, that Carole Muir has other class photos and that she has not shown them, probably at the request of the Elysée. Why ? Unlike Emmanuel Macron's father, who indicates that this class was at the Delpech school in Amiens, Carole Muir, strangely, does not name the school.
However, when searching on the "Copains d'avant" website (link), we find, in the 1980s, photos of classes at Delpech school taken outside, but never with the same setting as in this photo. Furthermore, logically, even if there may be several classes of the same level, Carole and Emmanuel should be in at least one of these class photos from the Delpech school: in CE2 1985, CM1 1986, CM2 1987, or this one with no level, in 1986. However, we do not recognize Emmanuel.
At first, we thought that Emmanuel Macron might not have gone to the primary school near his home. We asked our readers to contact us if any of them recognized this schoolyard setting, with a cinder block wall and trees in the background.
Two days later, on March 30, we received a response: yes, and this courtyard is indeed at the Delpech school, as shown in a photo of the CM2 class from 1983/1984 (link). Our research was therefore incomplete. In addition, there is another example of a class at the Delpech school with two teachers (photo of CP 1986-1987).
Emmanuel Macron's school career is therefore turning green again: it is a career with schools corresponding to his home, the Delpech school and then the La Providence secondary school. Could the black hole of his childhood be less black than we think?
Contact email: see the end of the introduction to the 2022 file - March 26, 2025. Grok Artificial Intelligence was asked about the black and gray holes in Emmanuel Macron's bibliography. By consulting the Internet archives, here is his answer for the years 2004-2008:
Back to home page - Access to 2022 file -
Access to french Post-Scriptum 2023-2025 - The same page in french
Short address of this page: pressibus.org/scenargb
Short address of this page: pressibus.org/scenargb
From Jean-Michel to Brigitte Trogneux, lies at the Elysée
Appendices S and T
The scenarios of the affair
Brigitte-Emmanuel
Addendum to the Pressibus 2022 file
and its Post-Scriptum 2023-2025
Preliminary
This page is a supplement to the french Post-Scriptum 2023-2025 page ant to the english file of the Pressibus dossier dealing with Brigittegate. It aims to explore two very distinct axes, at very different stages of progress, which divide this page into two successive pages:
For these two sets of scenarios, we are sticking with what is in the file and its Post-Scriptum: Prerequisite: Brigitte Macron was born Jean-Michel Trogneux
The Brigitte scenarios
The Emmanuel scenarios
